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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 262

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] What's in a name
	 [B7L] More stuff from our collection
	 [B7L] Whoops! Just noticed...
	 [B7L] pantomime
	 Fw: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
	 [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
	
	 Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
	 [B7L] New list FAQ
	 Re: [B7L] New list FAQ
	 [B7L] Used Zine Sale/T-Shirts
	 Re: [B7L] New list FAQ

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:27:41 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] What's in a name
Message-ID: <19990904.092743.10014.2.Rilliara@juno.com>

A name book I was looking through divided names which were once masculine
into masculine, neuter, and feminine.

Blake has become effeminate.

Obviously, the evil Federation will stop at nothing to throw mud on his
good name.  Or perfume.  Or whatever.  Or maybe it's just part of a
sinister plot of Servalan's to get back to power.  If people start
thinking Blake, besides being a dark haired person with dark eyes and
olive skin and--almost forgot--some kind of charisma, is female, she'll
have a much easier time passing for him than he will.

Ellynne

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:06:41 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] More stuff from our collection
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I feel as if I need a hardhat. We are gradually plowing through every shelf 
in every room of the house, clearing out duplicates and extra items from our 
collections of B7 and every other fandom we've both in involved in for the 
past 30 years. Annie is planning to put together a web page and auction off 
many out-of-print, classic B7 zines. Since the two of us live at the same 
address, we decided after 10 years that it was kind of redundant to keep two 
copies of the same zine, so we're clearing some living space. Watch for the 
announcement, because there are going to be some rare gems among the listings.

In the meantime: Professionals fans! Check out our latest auctions. We've 
posted some beautiful candid pictures of Lewis Collins (Bodie from The 
Professionals). More to come, including Martin Shaw.

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:10:50 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Whoops! Just noticed...
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She's found a cache of ROBIN OF SHERWOOD stuff and just posted it to the 
auction list. If anyone knows someone who is into this series, please pass 
the word along to that there are some ROS goodies being put up here as well. 
Many thanks.

 <A HREF="http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7">eBay View About Me for 
ashton7</A> 

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 21:19:57 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] pantomime
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We were mentally casting Cinderella as a pantomime after the water pistol fight
(had a great time, the sun was wonderful, the sea view fantastic and the
caves are great for ambushes) and here's what we ended up with.

Cinderella - Cally

Ugly sisters - Travis 1, 2

Baron Hardup  - Blake

Wicked stepmother - Servalan (as we have both Travii in drag, we allowed this
character to be played by a woman)

Buttons - Vila (the easiest part to cast of them all)

fairy godmother - a trio of Orac, Zen and Avon all arguing with one another
(mice - no rats - I think we should use gerbils)

Prince Charming - Tarrant  (or Soolin if you follow the pantomine rule of the
principal boy being played by a slim, attractive woman - Jenna has too much bust
for the part)

Judith
-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight)
Redemption '01  23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:51:38 +0100
From: "Deborah Day" <d.day@ukgateway.net>
To: "blakes7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Fw: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
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>
>
>>Why not just two types of spacials?
>>
>>Assume the original term had something to do with orbits, etc. and came
>>into use during slower than light days.  Normally, it would have been
>>calculated in terms of the planet being orbited* but may have been
>>standardized to reflect Earth's size.
>>
>>Spacials for things outside the solar system would have been calculated
>>from _the solar system's size_.  Faster than light drives would have used
>>this standardized calculation.  Confusion could be avoided by context,
>>althought solar spacials and planetary spacials might be referred to when
>>needed (just because we haven't heard them say it, doesn't mean they
>>couldn't).
>>
>
>This is fine as far as it goes, but supposing you were in orbit around a
>planet and something was coming towards you from deep space.  Which sort do
>you use - the one that refers to your ship or the incoming one?  They would
>have to have different names - perhaps something like orbit spacials and
>speed spacials.  I guess they weren't really thought through at the time
and
>the different writers just put in something that sounded good.  Also, it
>would be difficult to define the size of the solar system - they don't have
>a neat line round the outside, and nor does the sun's gravitational
>influence suddenly disappear, and also it would be difficult if you were
>coming into a strange system for the first time, to know how many planets
>there were, mass etc, as there simply wouldn't be time for all that,
>particularly under battle conditions.
>
>I guess spacials will simply have to remain a little vague.  Perhaps it
>depends what day of the week it was.
>
>Debbie.
>

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:06:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
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> >This is fine as far as it goes, but supposing you were in orbit around a
> >planet and something was coming towards you from deep space.  Which sort do
> >you use - the one that refers to your ship or the incoming one?  They would
> >have to have different names - perhaps something like orbit spacials and
> >speed spacials.  I guess they weren't really thought through at the time
> and
> >the different writers just put in something that sounded good.  Also, it
> >would be difficult to define the size of the solar system - they don't have
> >a neat line round the outside

Well, technically speaking, I think the edge is where the solar wind ceases to
operate, but I can't recall what stops it. 


I've got a brand new idea.  Spacials operate on a logarithmic scale.

How would that do?  You could then have small numbers for things close by and
bigger numbers for things far off without having to use massive numbers.

ie.  A spacial could be the power to ten of the number of kilometers.  Ten
kilometers would be 1 spacial, 100 km = 2 spacials.  1000km = 3 spacials, etc.
> 

Judith
-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight)
Redemption '01  23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:32:32 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
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Judith wrote:
>I've got a brand new idea.  Spacials operate on a logarithmic scale.
>
>How would that do?  You could then have small numbers for things close by
and
>bigger numbers for things far off without having to use massive numbers.
>
>ie.  A spacial could be the power to ten of the number of kilometers.  Ten
>kilometers would be 1 spacial, 100 km = 2 spacials.  1000km = 3 spacials,
etc.

Brilliantly simple.  I love this idea.  So a light year (about 9,500 billion
km) would be 14 spacials.  And Liberator's standard orbit of 1000 spacials
would be somewhere in the region of 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
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000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 light years

Now why didn't I think of that?

Neil

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:05:40 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] New list FAQ
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I started writing a new FAQ for the list. Have a look at it at
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/b7list/FAQ.html 

There are some obvious things missing, that I'd like sent to me. They are:

* Subscription info for Freedom City

* Subscription info for the Spin List

* Pointers to relevant web sites. At the moment I have Judith's and Horizon.

...and of couse I'd like comments on what's already there. If someone
feels like expanding on an entry, or writing an entry they feel should 
be there, just do so and send me the result.
-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
       "I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus

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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 16:27:37 -0400
From: Susan Beth <susanbeth33@pop.mindspring.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] New list FAQ
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Calle Dybedahl wrote:
>* Pointers to relevant web sites. At the moment I have Judith's and Horizon.

You've got to have Vickie's, too.  It's a great site for fanfic writers,
tons of useful resources and links. 

>...and of couse I'd like comments on what's already there. If someone
>feels like expanding on an entry, or writing an entry they feel should 
>be there, just do so and send me the result.

It looked good to me, and I'm touched to see SC lingers on in lore. ;-)

The only tentative suggestion I have is that you also include the "last
update" in a mundane friendly manner, too, somewhere.



Susan Beth


(susanbeth33@mindspring.com)

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:49:20 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Used Zine Sale/T-Shirts
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In conjunction with our giant memorabilia sale, we're beginning to sell off 
many of our used zines. These come from many fandoms such as Blakes 7, 
Forever Knight, Star Trek, Highlander, Quantum Leap and more. Some of these 
are long out of print and quite rare. We've created a web page where you can 
easily see what's currently available. It will be updated as items sell and 
as we slowly go through our collection of close to 2000 zines.

On this page you can also see a sample of the artwork on the infamous "Rogue 
Avon" T-shirts. We only have a few of these "classics" left, so if you're 
interested in a particular color and size, please get your order in right 
away! We have one copy each of the Star Trek and Robin of Sherwood shirts, 
and those are going to be posted to E-bay.

At the moment, we also have a few copies of brand new Blakes 7 and Highlander 
zines. These are copies left over from the conventions we sold at this 
summer.  Check out the web page to see everything with the prices.

But wait! There's more. We have a whole bunch of X-Files and Forever Knight 
stories printed from the internet during 1994 and 1995. These stories are 
FREE to the first person willing to pay the shipping. Otherwise, they have to 
go in the trash, which would be quite a waste.

The website for the zine sale is: 
http://www.angelfire.com/biz4/bizarro7/index.html

If any of you are interested in ordering photo reprints from Access, 
Chronicles, or Anaheim, I'm only going to be taking orders for the packages 
for another couple of weeks. In fact, a number of the photo pages are going 
to be coming down to make room for new stuff. I will leave up "highlight" 
pages for each convention. In any case, if you are interested in getting 
photo reprints, now's the time!

Annie & Leah

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Date: 06 Sep 1999 06:30:17 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] New list FAQ
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Susan Beth <susanbeth33@pop.mindspring.com> writes:

> You've got to have Vickie's, too.  It's a great site for fanfic writers,
> tons of useful resources and links. 

What's the URL? I used to have it somewhere, but it seems to have
vanished.

> The only tentative suggestion I have is that you also include the "last
> update" in a mundane friendly manner, too, somewhere.

:-)
-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
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