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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 188
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Re: Brave New Worlds
Re: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
Re: [B7L] B7L: Who novel crossover
[B7L] All new caption contest!
[B7L] Updates From Ashton Press
Re: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
[B7L] Horizon Newsflash, Gareth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:41:45 PDT
From: Rob Clother <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Brave New Worlds
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Harriet:
>Rob wrote:
>
>>How about Augustus Caesar as a possible counterexample?
>
>Spell out your argument (I got confused about which was example and >which
>counter) and I might manage an opinion on it.
Penny's original point, with which Una agreed, was that compromise for the
sake of power and corruption are pretty much the same thing. I thought of
Augustus as someone who made a good many compromises to secure his own
power, and then went a fair way towards reducing the corruption that had
become endemic during the days of the Roman Republic.
The Second Triumverate of Augustus, Lepidus and Antony seized power in a
bloodthirsty coup, and consolidated on their power with a series of purges.
Then Augustus betrayed the Triumverate, defeated Antony and seized power for
himself. Yet this heralded not only the Pax Romana, but also a better deal
for Rome's ordinary people. The offices and institutions which wielded
power in the days of the Republic were not dissolved, but brought into the
jurisdiction of the Emperor. The Emperor then proceeded to dilute the power
of the hereditary senators in favour of more able and intelligent candidates
drawn from the ranks of the common people.
The question is: was Augustus corrupt? There is a strong case to be made
for saying that he improved the lives of his citizens: but he seized power
with the sort of ruthlessness that made Servalan and Sula look like rank
amateurs. :-)
-- Rob
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:20:58 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Harriet Monkhouse" <101637.2064@compuserve.com>,
"INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
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> >> And then can we talk him into writing the Lost Four Episodes?
> >
> >Que?
>
> According to Robert, who I hold to be omniscient, Star Cops should have
> been a 13-episode season, like B7, but four episodes were never made
> because of the BBC technicians' strike (which you will no doubt remember
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> Dr Who was also affected). Chris Boucher wrote five of the nine episodes
> (and reasonably enough is novelising those five, not the four written by
> other people). But I don't know whether the missing four scripts exist,
or
> who would have written them. There's still plenty of scope for
> development. Anyone for Mars?
Actually there was only one episode missing due to that strike, and it was
written by Philip Martin. The other three were never even written - that
would have been an opening arc for season 2.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:19:30 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Sue Cowley-WW" <sue.cowley@bbc.co.uk>, "'B7'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L: Who novel crossover
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> From: Sue Cowley-WW <sue.cowley@bbc.co.uk>
> just delurking for one brief moment because i just thought you might all
> like to know that the rumours that a certain pychostrategist that we all
> know and love does *not* appear in Chris B's next Who novel "CORPSE
MARKER"
> are TOTALLY UNTRUE.
>
> Carnell is alive and kicking and plays a *big* part in the book.
Well, that change must be why it was delayed until November, cos when the
rumours first started, both Steve Cole and Chris Boucher denied it.
Still, if it's true, it's nice to see that fan-wishes can have their
effect.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:41:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sue Clerc <blake4fr@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] All new caption contest!
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There are 4 new pictures for captioning, all taken from Paul
Darrow's stunning turn as Captain Hawkins in "Doctor Who and
the Silurians." For inspiration, read the captions from last
month's frames from "Bergerac" and "Silver" with Gareth
Thomas, and peruse the past caption contests back to March
1996. Go on, I dare you.
The url is http://pages.cthome.net/blakes7/CCurrent.html and
SNET seems to have fixed the slow connection problem.
The bad links to the Character Profiles on the Data Banks page
have also been fixed.
Sue
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:00:29 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
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Subject: [B7L] Updates From Ashton Press
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At long last, we have some updates on our web pages for your enjoyment and
perusal:
Most importantly, of course, we have a new Leah cartoon, this time featuring
Duncan and Methos.
We have some updates on photo orders and MediaWest con, as well as a report
on some Fan Q winners.
We have a new website for our brand new Blakes 7 adult zines, Southern
Comfort 10.5 and Southern Comfort 11.5, including samples of the gorgeous
color covers (by Leah) and links to some reviews of the new zines.
We also have an update on the status of the upcoming new Highlander zines.
We're hoping to have new reviews and links from Donan Woods sometime over the
weekend. Stay tuned for more news.
Annie CWPack
Ashton Press: http://members.aol.com/ashton7/ashton.htm
Donan Woods: http://members.aol.com/methosela/cass.htm
Fan Fiction: http://members.aol.com/pelkiepet/stories.htm
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:23:25 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
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On Thu 10 Jun, Harriet Monkhouse wrote:
> >> And then can we talk him into writing the Lost Four Episodes?
> >
> >Que?
>
> According to Robert, who I hold to be omniscient, Star Cops should have
> been a 13-episode season, like B7, but four episodes were never made
> because of the BBC technicians' strike (which you will no doubt remember -
> Dr Who was also affected). Chris Boucher wrote five of the nine episodes
> (and reasonably enough is novelising those five, not the four written by
> other people). But I don't know whether the missing four scripts exist, or
> who would have written them. There's still plenty of scope for
> development. Anyone for Mars?
Fascinating. I think Chris would only write the missing episodes if paid the
going rate so to speak. (Which puts it rather beyond fanzine economics) The
ones I'm publishing are ones he'd already written in novel form many years ago.
I'd love to know how the series would have developed though. I always saw Mars
as an end to a serason. Or was it a last script brought forward?
Judith
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 06:20:28 EDT
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] Horizon Newsflash, Gareth Thomas
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The following is just in from Diane:
Horizon Newsflash - Gareth Thomas will appear in another episode of
'Heartbeat' for ITV, again playing Nathanial Cleghorn, a farmer.
Carol Mc
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