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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 187
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] BlakePark by Alison Now Online!
[B7L] Re: Additions to zine lists
[B7L] B7L: Who novel crossover
Re: [B7L] A different what if...
[B7L] Re: Brave New Worlds
[B7L] Re: Star Cops
Re: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
Re: [B7L] A different what if...
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] BlakePark by Alison Now Online!
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--- J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <much laughter> I'm forwarding that one to my
> brother. He'll love it,
And he did. Congrats again, Alison.
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 99 04:05:00 GMT
From: s.thompson8@genie.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Additions to zine lists
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Kathryn, thank you for the info on =Prime Attack=. The review I saw was in
=Syndicated Images= #7, one of my MWC acquisitions. The reviewer was very
enthusiastic, but he didn't actually give any information about the zine
other than that it was a PGP; and he wasn't terribly articulate himself,
which did make me wonder about his taste.
Those are certainly memorable phrases!
Sarah T.
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:49:28 +0100
From: Sue Cowley-WW <sue.cowley@bbc.co.uk>
To: "'B7'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] B7L: Who novel crossover
Message-Id: <A333E716FD05D211BC1B00805FD64F0C0200C87D@WWLNX03>
just delurking for one brief moment because i just thought you might all
like to know that the rumours that a certain pychostrategist that we all
know and love does *not* appear in Chris B's next Who novel "CORPSE MARKER"
are TOTALLY UNTRUE.
Carnell is alive and kicking and plays a *big* part in the book. And you
want to prove the point that there are enough of us B7 fans out there to
support a separate range of novels then get out there are buy six copies
each when it finally hits the shops....
:)
Sue
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:41:43 PDT
From: Sally Manton <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] A different what if...
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TigerM wrote:
<I think Tarrant and Gan would have gotten along very
well.>
I don't think Gan would have taken to Tarrant (and I also
don't think he'd have cared for a lot of Avon's actions in
Season 3, but then Avon was never his favourite crewmate).
Yes, he'd have agreed with the aim of further attacking the
Federation while it was weak, and yes, Tarrant's willingness
to take risks himself would have been noted and appreciated.
But as many good qualities as Tarrant has, the darker aspects
of his character are exactly what would have alienated Gan,
because they cut *so badly* across who Gan is.
IMO Gan is the only *genuinely* humane crew member apart
from Blake (who has his blinder moments) and - possibly -
Cally. He actually saw the others as individuals and accepted
their weaknesses as he acknowledged his own (neither
Tarrant nor Avon were that generous, but Avon was more
democratically nasty. To everyone.) And Gan, unlike too
many of our heroes, did not believe that the means justified
the end (see Shadow).
Gan was *not* a believer in expediency over people. Not ever.
Not even for the greater good of Blake's cause. And he'd have
loathed Tarrant's overt air of self-satisfaction (they've all put
up with enough arrogance from the Snarly One and Fearless
Leader. Blake could have seen past Tarrant's smug exterior,
but I don't think Gan could have.) and his methods.
Yes, Gan was well aware of how much they needed weaponry.
But he would still never, never have agreed to sending a
terrified, virtually defenceless *stranger* (let alone a crew
member) into that sort of danger alone. Remember, Tarrant
objected to Vila having any back-up, any defences. There's no
*way* that Gan would or even *could* smooth it over so that
Vila wouldn't be scared, because Tarrant's plan doesn't allow
for any safety margin. Therefore Gan would not have agreed
to it, but insisted on looking elsewhere for a solution.
So Gan would not have agreed to it, but insisted on looking
elsewhere for a solution (or at least that Vila was allowed
some way out if things went bad as Cally *should* have but
was too weak to.) And I don't think Tarrant - with his disdain
at this stage for those he considers inferior - would not have
been prepared to listen to Gan or let him interfere. In fact,
he quite possibly would have tried to intimidate Gan (which
would have been fun to watch <g>). Or possibly waited
till Gan was out of the way to get back to Vila.
Gan did push Vila when necessary, but his way of doing it
was far different. In Horizon, he appeals to Vila's - er -
chivalry - (well, it's sexist, but it works, doesn't it?). He backs
up Blake's orders when Vila needs pushing, but not with
cruelty (then Blake never uses these harassing tactics - he's got
the natural authority to order Vila - sometimes brusquely, yes -
and know Vila would obey. Tarrant hasn't. And Centero was
dangerous, but they all in it together. With weapons and
teleport out.)
Gan would have worked with Tarrant (he managed it with
Avon, after all). But I think there would have been the same
not-quite-hostility that existed between Avon and Jenna. And
Vila would - by using *Gan* as a buffer against Tarrant -
quite possibly made it worse.
Of course this *is* just my opinion...
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:07:13 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Brave New Worlds
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Rob wrote:
>How about Augustus Caesar as a possible counterexample?
Spell out your argument (I got confused about which was example and which
counter) and I might manage an opinion on it.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:07:52 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
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Judith wrote, re Spring and Kenzy:
>I found that a really fascinating relationship,
>developing from total dislike/mistrust to mutual
>professional respect to the beginnings of
>something more.
>From "I'll show him!" to "I'll win his respect (and I really want it)."
It's amusing watching her TV broadcast when she waxes lyrical about how
wonderful he is (for devious personal reasons), and then seeing her
actually begin to believe it. The thing that reminds me of Blake and Avon
is the sense of Kenzy coming to see that she could be something better than
she'd ever bothered to imagine, thanks to Spring's example. The difference
is that Spring is so much more hostile than Blake, and really has to be
persuaded to give her his trust, rather than awarding it unconditionally to
achieve the same result.
>> And then can we talk him into writing the Lost Four Episodes?
>
>Que?
According to Robert, who I hold to be omniscient, Star Cops should have
been a 13-episode season, like B7, but four episodes were never made
because of the BBC technicians' strike (which you will no doubt remember -
Dr Who was also affected). Chris Boucher wrote five of the nine episodes
(and reasonably enough is novelising those five, not the four written by
other people). But I don't know whether the missing four scripts exist, or
who would have written them. There's still plenty of scope for
development. Anyone for Mars?
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:47:27 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Star Cops
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Harriet wrote:
> >> And then can we talk him into writing the Lost Four Episodes?
> >
> >Que?
>
> According to Robert, who I hold to be omniscient, Star Cops should have
> been a 13-episode season, like B7, but four episodes were never made
> because of the BBC technicians' strike (which you will no doubt remember -
> Dr Who was also affected). Chris Boucher wrote five of the nine episodes
> (and reasonably enough is novelising those five, not the four written by
> other people). But I don't know whether the missing four scripts exist,
or
> who would have written them. There's still plenty of scope for
> development. Anyone for Mars?
I knew that there was a script for a tenth episode which didn't get made
because of standard BBC problems, but I didn't know there were as many as
four missing.
Una
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:18:05 EDT
From: AdamWho@aol.com
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In a message dated 99-06-10 06:48:32 EDT, smanton@hotmail.com writes:
<< Gan would have worked with Tarrant (he managed it with
Avon, after all). But I think there would have been the same
not-quite-hostility that existed between Avon and Jenna. And
Vila would - by using *Gan* as a buffer against Tarrant -
quite possibly made it worse. >>
I think Gan and Tarrant would get along. Gan learned to tolerate arrogance
from Blake and Avon, he may have objected to Tarrant bullying Vila during
City, but still get along better with him than he did with Avon. Tarrant
would probably treat Gan with respect, since he was affable and rarely
objected to plans unless he had a valid reason. Tarrant also had no reason to
distrust him, as he seemed to distrust Cally and Avon during his initial time
on the Liberator. Both Tarrant and Dayna had a certain straight-forwardness
and directness which Gan would probably find refreshing. I think out of the
two, Gan would be closer to Dayna, but have no problem with either one unless
they did something to alienate him.
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