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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 160
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] The Way Back\Gambit question
Re: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 5/6
Re: [B7L] B5:Crusade (was Horizon News Bulletin)
[B7L] ["Pat Patera" <patpatera@hotmail.com>] no mail
[B7L] B7 videos for sale (PAL)
Re: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 5/6
Re: [B7L] Q-study
[B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
Re: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
[B7L] Mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all, but we know it does thrill Vila.
Re: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
Re: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
Re: [B7L] Who Shot Anna
Re: [B7L] Art and the Desperate Editor
[B7L] Cally and Auron
[B7L] Pick your own cover photos
[B7L] Australian prices
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 08:27:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back\Gambit question
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On Sun 09 May, AdamWho@aol.com wrote:
> Is the man at the beginning of Gambit (who wants to kill Klein because he
> ruined his leg), the same actor who played Blake's lawyer during The Way
> Back?
Well spotted. The actor in both cases is Michael Halsey.
Judith
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:02:11 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 5/6
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On Sun 09 May, Meredith Dixon wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 1999 01:44:33 +0100, Neil Faulkner wrote:
>
> >'Children of Auron': 'Completely invalidates 'Dawn of the Gods' and
> >everything we know about the Auronar, too. I don't consider it canonical.'>
> >
> >I do this the other way round - CoA invalidates DotG. It's the episode that
> >tells us most about the Auronar.
>
> Even if you throw out the Thaarn myth in "Dawn", dismiss Cally's comments
> about the Lost in "Web" as legend, and assume that Cally was talking about
> foster parents in "Harvest", you're still left with the contradictions
> relating to why Cally could not return to Auron. In "Time Squad," of course,
> she says she was sent from Auron to aid the Saurian freedom fighters, and she
> cannot return because she failed in her mission. Likewise, in "Bounty",
> Lehan has been sent from Auron to talk Sarkoff into resisting the Federation,
> and he too cannot return to Auron unless he succeeds.
>
> But then CoA tells us that Cally was exiled from Auronar for violating Auron's
> neutrality.
>
> Now, Cally's statements in "Time Squad" can be shoehorned into this (with
> considerable difficulty) by reasoning that Cally was thinking that she had
> failed to convince the other Auronar of her mission's importance, not that she
> had failed at her job on Saurian Major. That turns what she actually said on
> its head, but you can *just* make it fit. But "Bounty" just won't fit that
> mold. Lehan would be no more able to return to Auron that Cally, yet she
> tells him that he can return.
>
> How do you account for that, Neil? Or do you throw out "Bounty", too?
I think that personal honour is very important to the Auronar. I can see that
in the early Cally. She has that 'I will die before telling you anything
willingly' attitude.
There's also the danger of assuming a uniform planet. Let's assume that Auron
(like everywhere else) has wide variations of opinion and various political
groups. (I remember on of my early delights in Babylon 5 was when I discovered
that the Narn had more than one religion).
Now suppose that personal honour carries into politics. If you fail your party,
you cannot return home because it would shame your party. If you succeed, even
though your party is not currently in power, you bring them honour. Thus, the
ruling party may be strictly neutral, but the factions that Cally and Leeharn
belong too, though minorities are far more interested in contact with the rest
of the galaxy. The ruling party have made off-planet travel very restricted and
difficult. Leeharn was actually sent out when a previous government was in
power and cannot return home without dishonour unless he has succeeded in what
he set out to do. He can only bring back the possibility of an alliance, but
that is success. If the alliance is not ratified by the Auronar government,
that is not Leeharn's fault.
Cally could not return because her party had fallen even further out of power by
the time of Children of Auron (perhaps Leeharn's failure to get any allience
accepted by Auron was instrumental in the government becoming even more
isolationist and imposing restrictions on those who opposed neutrality). She
had not only failed on Saurian Major (which was both a personal failure nd a
loss of face for her party) but was now on the side of a group that was
officially banned.
My solution in short is to assume that political situations are fluid and that
several years pass between Cally leaving Auron and the episode Children of Auron
(as indeed they do). Either there was a change in government (from Leeharn's
party to an isolationist one) or else a repressive government managed to become
far more powerful.
Judith
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:49:32 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <Bizarro7@aol.com>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B5:Crusade (was Horizon News Bulletin)
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> From: Bizarro7@aol.com
> << What's happening with CRUSADE? Last I'd heard, it had been cancelled
> after a few episodes. >>
>
> Last I heard, this tribute series to B7 discontinued filming after
episode 13
> because TNT Network had been pressuring JMS very heavily to turn the show
> into something incredibly tacky and stupid to attract a different
> demographic. Rather than compromise the integrity of the show, JMS halted
> production and began trying to find an alternative backer so the show
could
> continue.
No, JMS *did* compromise the integrity by adding more flings and punch-ups.
But TNT pulled out anyway. AIUI *16* episodes are filmed, but only 13 will
air. The others will either be video releases, or maybe edited together
into a closing TVM. That was the last I heard, anyway.
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Date: 09 May 1999 20:53:24 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] ["Pat Patera" <patpatera@hotmail.com>] no mail
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Forwarded since the spamblock ate it, and it's (hopefully) temporary.
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Hi all, sorry for unrelated post.
Geocities has kibbutzed random email accounts and has not delivered mail for
a week now. I'm trying to get it fixed.
I shall let list posts accumulate, as they are deleted after 7 days.
Calle, if things are bouncing back to lysator, unsubscribe me.
(alas, after 3 years I have lost the unsubscribe instructions)
I miss all your chatter.
Happy posting,
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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 20:25:16 +0100
From: Caroline <caroline.cooper@cableinet.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] B7 videos for sale (PAL)
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Vols 1-26 BBC videos (PAL) sell as complete set only. All in original
packaging and no noticeable deterioration in quality although they have
been watched a few times.
Will accept offers minimum 60 pounds the lot (they cost 10 pounds *each* to
buy new!)
Buyer collects (Surrey, UK) or pays actual shipping cost.
Please mail me directly at <caroline.cooper@cableinet.co.uk> with your offer.
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:10:05 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 5/6
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Neil said:
> Bloody typical, huh? I declare myself an Acc3 and then promptly discover
> I'm even more of an Acc4. At least I now know I'm not the only one.
Hehehe... Actually, I figured you'd appear in account 4. Honest. It's on the
Space City list.
> It would be interesting to know if there's any obvious split in
> preferences - male vs female, Brit vs American, whatever. Or maybe that's
> to come in the final gripping instalment. Not that it isn't tempting to
> make a few guesses.
Actually, I didn't look at all at that sort of thing, so you can make some
guesses if you like and then I can see whether there's anything there.
Una
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:08:34 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Q-study
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Judith said:
> I suspect a lot of us have layers of ranking.
Definitely. All those people who had non-exemplifying sorts show some level
of significance on at least two accounts. I tend to agree with aspects of
most of the accounts - which is probably why my own sort wasn't significant
at all. :(
Una
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:16:47 +0100
From: "Jonathan" <jonathan@meanwhile.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
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"Doctor - if someone doesn't do something this world will perish !"
"So... what's in it for us ?"
"Doctor, the Daleks are the most ruthless and amoral race the universe has
ever known !"
"True. But they've got their bad points too."
"Doctor, how did you ever find out their evil plan ?"
"Oh, you'll be surprised what a little torture will do..."
"Doctor, the Tardis is overloaded. Unless one of us heroically sacrifices
himself we'll all.... arrrrghhhh !"
Actually, I think a Doctor who was as dark and self-interested as Hartnell
(remember how he was going to run out on the Thals when it suited him, and
then manipulated them into a war for his own ends?) and as alien than Tom
Baker would be cool, and I can't think of anyone better than Darrow for the
job. I don't know how Michael Keating would look dressed in the assistant's
traditional mini-skirt though...
Jonathan
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
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Well, it was suggested before McCoy was cast that he
might do well - trouble is, I'd prefer to see him as
the Master. He'd have to have face fungus then, so you
wouldn't get what happened when a friend of mine saw
the first episode of Timelash - one arm shot towards
the screen, and <smile> the fateful words "That's
Avon" were heard.
And that from a prime candidate for the Tarrant
Nostra, too!
--- Jonathan wrote:
> I don't know how Michael Keating would look
> dressed in the assistant's
> traditional mini-skirt though...
<smile> I don't know - some men have very good legs
indeed. Unless you think they'd want to include, shall
we say, the Peri factor in the assistant's physical
attributes?
Regards
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all, but we know it does thrill Vila.
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Sarah wrote:
> I don't want to get too personal or anything
> but...is it that you don't like the taste,
That's right. Wine tastes foul to me, and other things
can become somewhat weird - rum and coke, for example,
tastes like sour cola. You can understand why I
haven't persisted.
> Do you think anyone else would? Would
> they do anything that involved
> losing control? oo-er...
Um, I thought that was what certain types of fanfic
were for <smile>
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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 19:40:51 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
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Jonathan wrote:
>I don't know how Michael Keating would look dressed in the assistant's
>traditional mini-skirt though...
If I recall correctly, Michael Keating was himself a front-runner for the
role of the Doctor, I believe back when they were looking for a successor
to Colin Baker.
- Lisa
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:03:45 +0100
From: "kevin mahoney" <kevinpatrickmahoney@msn.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Forget the telemovie... PD for Dr Who
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Joanne wrote:
>Well, it was suggested before McCoy was cast that he
>might do well - trouble is, I'd prefer to see him as
>the Master. He'd have to have face fungus then, so you
>wouldn't get what happened when a friend of mine saw
>the first episode of Timelash - one arm shot towards
>the screen, and <smile> the fateful words "That's
>Avon" were heard.
There was some quite good acting in Timelash, but Paul's performance =
wasn't all that fantastic. I think he's far better playing a morally =
dubious person than an out and out villain. But I can't really see him =
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 04:17:01 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Who Shot Anna
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Sorry to be so long getting back to this.
Neil Faulkner wrote:
> Mistral narrowed Anna's options down to these four:
Well, actually, two; tell him the truth and throw herself
on his mercy, or kill him; and I concluded the latter. These
were simply some speculations on how she might have
dealt with Cally and Tarrant afterward. (And later I
realized, Anna probably only thinks she has to deal with
Tarrant; when Cally comes down the stairs, Tarrant
motions her to silence immediately; and Anna's back is to
them the whole time, so she may not realize Cally's there.)
> 1) she was a good enough shot that
> once she'd got her gun out, she could take them all by
> using him for a shield
>
> No. She would never have had the time to get behind Avon, even if Cally and
> Tarrant were completely taken by surprise.
If she holds the gun on Avon in threat, she's plenty of time
to move around him before firing.
> 2) she had no personal loyalty to
> anyone, and couldn't imagine the others would care if
> she killed him, since it was basically a personal matter
> between her and Avon
>
> But killing Avon would make it a personal matter between her and the others,
> and there were two of them against the one of her.
We seem to be at cross purposes here; I'm saying
that she might not believe that it *would* make it
personal with them; who are they to him and why
would they care? She might feel, with good reason,
that he's not exactly the type to inspire loyalty -- when
you trust no one, you generally don't either expect or
receive trust from others, and the same goes for loyalty.
> 3) was so focused on the idea of him
> killing her (she'd been anticipating the moment for
> years) that she made a mistake and forgot about them
>
> If she was that unprofessional she deserved to die.
Agreed; and I don't think this is the answer; I discount
such gross unprofessionalism on her part completely, as
she is at the top of her field; I was just trying to be thorough.
> or 4) thought the gunfire would bring her people running,
> and she could hold out until they came, saw Cally and
> Tarrant trying to kill her, and killed them for her.
>
> Hardly. There's no guarantee that Hob et al would hear the shooting, and
> even if they did it would take them precious seconds to react to it, then to
> make a decision, and then make their way down to the cellar (assuming they
> went there first)... Enough time for Anna to be killed a dozen times over.
Well, she's in a jam; if she only knows about Tarrant,
that's a fairly even chance that she can hold out, or
even defeat him, particularly as he's a much larger
target than she is.
> I'm guessing 1 or 4, since if she were exposed as
> Bartolomew to the rebels, they would turn on her
> and kill her themselves+ADs- she stands a much better
> chance against three than against her entire band of
> 'followers'. Quite simply, Anna was in probably the
> most dangerous situation of her entire life, and her
> options were limited, IMHO.
>
> Definitely a dangerous situation for her. There is, I think, a 5th option -
> to pull a gun on Servalan and use her as a bargaining lever. After all,
> Avon has clearly come to interrogate Servalan, so she has something Avon
> wants. Threatening to kill her would give Anna some leverage.
Can't see this, really. Tarrant and Avon hide when they
hear Anna entering; she has no visual or auditory clues
that they want to interrogate Servalan. Anna knows that
Avon has been with Blake (she *must* have been lying
about not being sure it was him; remember Klegg knew his
full name); she'd likelier think they were there to overthrow
or kill Servalan, so that's no leverage at all.
> But Anna's best bet was probably to keep Avon talking and stall for as much
> time as possible, in the hope that someone upstairs would intervene. Slim,
> maybe, but a good deal fatter than all the options that would definitely get
> her killed.
IMHO the *last* thing she'd want is for someone to
intervene in such a way that Avon and friend(s) are
alive to answer questions. If Hob and the others found
out about her identity as Bartolomew, they'd kill her.
She's got to be the only one still able to answer questions.
> All in all, I think she was putting her hand where she could reach for a gun
> as a last resort, and Cally thought she was going for it in earnest. Hence
> Cally's warning and Avon's reaction.
But looking at the preceding scenes, her hand is hanging
straight down, above the pocket the gun is in, the whole
time. There's no need for her to move her hand, unless
she's drawing the gun. And she's facing directly forward,
towards Avon, both before and after Cally's shout; there's
no body language to suggest her action was in response to
Cally at all. Frankly, I can't see either Cally or Anna as
skittish enough for this. I suppose we'll have to disagree :)
One last thought, though: to step outside the frame for a
moment, the point of this episode, to me at least, is trust
and betrayal; that's really Avon's recurring theme. His
Achilles heel, start to finish, is that he trusts where he
shouldn't and doesn't trust where he should. It's not much
of a betrayal if Anna pulls a gun on him out of fearful,
instinctive reaction; it *is* a betrayal if she cold-bloodedly
decides to kill him instead of tell him the truth. This makes
a much better set-up for 'Terminal' and everything after it;
I'm not sure I'd accept the events in 'Blake' without Anna's
deliberate betrayal.
Just IMHO,
Mistral
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:45:18 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Art and the Desperate Editor
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Now that I'm back at work (what a difference an extra day off work
makes!):
>I put Acrobat versions of Refractions #1 and Refractions #2 up on >the
web (that's the Real Thing, the masters get printed from this).
>Three people responded. (Thank you Joanne especially.)
<smile> No problem. I should thank people for their efforts more often
than I do. So this shall be a kind of global thankyou to the many:-
Judith, Kathryn, Leah and Annie, Sue Clerc, Calle for the list, Reba and
Pita (has anyone been kind enough to send you more stories for the
Aquitar Files yet?), Penny Dreadful, and to anyone else on the list who
has a B7-related Website that I have, undoubtedly, visited at some stage
but may not have previously commented on how pleased I am to see it
there. Thankyou all.
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:45:47 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Cally and Auron
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Ellynne wrote:
<Even if you throw out the Thaarn myth in "Dawn",
dismiss Cally's comments about the Lost in "Web" as
legend, and assume that Cally was talking about
foster parents in "Harvest", you're still left with the
contradictions relating to why Cally could not return to Auron.
In "Time Squad," of course, she says she was sent from Auron to
aid the Saurian freedom fighters, and she cannot return because
she failed in her mission. Likewise, in "Bounty", Lehan
has been sent from Auron to talk Sarkoff into resisting the
Federation, and he too cannot return to Auron unless he
succeeds.
But then CoA tells us that Cally was exiled from Auronar
for violating Auron's neutrality.>
I've come across this before, people rooting Auron culture in concepts of
honour and success and stuff. I suppose it's as valid as any other, but as
far as I'm concerned it's utter junk.
I think the discrepancies between the various accounts of Cally's reasons
for leaving Auron show, more than all, the pitfalls of not having everything
worked out beforehand. Still, it gives us something to argue about.
I'm not sure that all the various discrepancies and contradictions can be
completely squared without inventing some ponderously over-elaborate set-up
that disappears up its own pretensions to plausibility. It's more a case of
deciding which bits you consider most important and which can be played
down. My rationalisation goes roughly like this.
There are, broadly, two factions on Auron. One is the government,
frantically building its brave new world of telepathic clones and pursuing a
policy of complete isolationism. The other is a loose coalition of
opposition groups which, among other things, wants to reestablish contact
with the wider galactic community to resist the perceived threat of
Federation aggression.
(In my own subcanon - some of which should be up on my web site soon - the
Federation has attacked and unsuccessfully invaded Auron, about a century
before the events in the series. The Auron government exploits the memory
of this on which to build its own rhetoric of isolationist patriotism.)
Cally was sent (as she stated in Time Squad), but by this opposition
faction. This automatically made her the exile she was revealed to be in
Children of Auron. That's the main discrepancy resolved.
As to Lehan, here are the two relevant bits of Bounty:
SARKOFF: Yes, I remember in my last years of office, we received an
ambassador from Auron. His name was --
CALLY: -- Lehan.
SARKOFF: Yes, Lehan. I remember how alone he seemed.
CALLY: He did not return to us.
BLAKE: Because he failed.
SARKOFF: Because I failed him? I wanted that alliance.
CALLY: So did we. To resist the Federation.
BLAKE: You seem to have shifted your ground somewhat since then.
and at the end of the ep:
CALLY: If you see Lehan ...
SARKOFF: I have work for Lehan. He and I have an alliance to put
together.
CALLY: Then tell him he can go home to Auron.
The first thing I notice is that his non-return being connected with failure
is cited by Blake rather than Cally. (Admittedly, she doesn't attempt to
deny it, but delving into the intricacies of Auron politics would be a bit
off-topic given the urgency of the situation.). Obviously we don't really
know anything about Lehan, but loss of honour is hardly the only reason for
him not going back. He might have been struck down by a laser bolt. Or a
bad attack of apathy.
My rationalisation:
Lehan likewise was sent by the opposition, but unlike Cally with government
approval. His failure to return is then cited by the government as proof of
its own policy. So the 'we' in Cally's 'So did we' does not refer to the
Auron government, but to the dissident underground, and resisting the
Federation is not the only item on the agenda. Likewise, when Cally says
that Lehan can go home, government approval of his return is not uppermost
in her mind.
Neil
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:44:47 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Pick your own cover photos
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Bother, I picked the worst possible moment to start talking about this on
Space City - when it's having a roll call. Anyone here likelier to
respond? And apologies to those who thought it was too boring the first
time they got it.
While delivering the latest two re-released B7 videos to Stockholm, I
started pondering yet again how Fab Films chose the cover photos. The
latest baffling selection was a picture of Avon and Tarrant looking
exceptionally dopey and Dayna looking OK, all standing in front of a plain
green background (I think it's the Replication Plant on Auron) doing
nothing in particular. So Calle and I started discussing what pictures we
would use in the improbable event that we ever got control of the video
distribution rights... and as a sideline we drew up a list of the silliest
photos as well. There's also scope for an adult/slash list back on SC, of
course, and Avon fans could exploit the fact that he's in all 26 tapes by
having 26 pictures of Avon, while Vila fans could really pig out and have
52 pictures, two per cover... I hope someone else can come up with those.
Here is our main list. We were trying to pick shots that were relevant,
might intrigue those who haven't previously seen the episode, but didn't
provide too much of a spoiler to the plot (you may think we failed on all
counts):
*The Way Back/Spacefall
Either Blake in the brainwashing machine, or Blake watching the
massacre.
*Cygnus Alpha/Time Squad
Cally threatening Blake on first meeting.
*The Web/Seek-Locate-Destroy
Servalan in her office, talking to Rontane (and Bercol if he fits
too).
*Mission to Destiny/Duel
Avon being Hercule Poirot - would have to rewatch to pick precise
scene.
*Project Avalon/Breakdown
Gan in medical unit with others trying to diagnose him.
*Bounty/Deliverance
Jenna inspecting the imprisoned crew.
*Orac/Redemption
We split between DSV 1 blowing up, and Blake/Avon eyeballing at
the end of Redemption.
*Shadow/Weapon
Blake/Avon/Jenna looking at Moon discs (well, the outfits have just
got rave reviews).
*Horizon/Pressure Point
On this one, Calle wanted Servalan in her lizard outfit as the
"proper" photo and I wanted it as the silly one. So in the end we didn't
use it for either. Instead, Servalan torturing Kasabi.
*Trial/Killer
Travis in cell (possibly with Par).
*Hostage/Countdown
Blake/Avon/Vila in cell (possibly Avon kicking Vila).
*Voice from the Past/Gambit
Either Avon/Vila shaking hands by mini-Orac, or Servalan handing
the dove to Jarriere (this is MY list!)
*The Keeper/Star One
Travis shooting Blake.
*Aftermath/Powerplay
Avon/Servalan about to kiss.
*Volcano/Dawn of the Gods
Mori and Federation troops storm the Liberator flightdeck.
*Harvest of Kairos/City at the Edge of the World
Kerril threatening Vila in the corridor (before she washes and
goes soppy).
*Children of Auron/Rumours of Death
Avon and Shrinker in the cave.
*Sarcophagus/Ultraworld
Possibly Cally as green mystic (or one of the others in
alternative personae).
*Moloch/Deathwatch
Vila meeting imprisoned Servalan (or just possibly Max and Deeta
en route to the combat area).
*Terminal/Rescue
Vila watching dying Zen.
*Power/Traitor
Those Federation officers chatting in the mess on Helotrix.
*Stardrive/Animals
We were really struggling here... so as a treat for Steve we
decided we would have to borrow Dayna/Og from the adult version...
*Headhunter/Assassin
Avon being auctioned.
*Games/Sand
Servalan brooding alone by the fire on Virn (or possibly Soolin
doing the shooting game on Belkov's orbiter).
*Gold/Orbit
Avon/Vila in the shuttle.
*Warlord/Blake
Blake as a bounty hunter (sort of full circle to The Way Back).
And the silly version:
*The Way Back/Spacefall
Nova drowning in sealing gel.
*Cygnus Alpha/Time Squad
Vargas modelling his trainers.
*The Web/Seek-Locate-Destroy
Saymon in his bottle.
*Mission to Destiny/Duel
Sinofar and Giroc - preferably showing Sinofar's nipples.
*Project Avalon/Breakdown
Gan being mad.
*Bounty/Deliverance
Meegat reciting to Avon with her eyes closed in ecstasy.
*Orac/Redemption
Phibian grabbing Servalan in the tunnel.
*Shadow/Weapon
Coser (in full neckdress) shooting the monster.
*Horizon/Pressure Point
See our earlier problems about what constitutes silly. We fell
back on the adventure playground scene of our heroes swinging along the
corridor ceiling.
*Trial/Killer
Zil sticking tongue out.
*Hostage/Countdown
Crimmos in masks.
*Voice from the Past/Gambit
Travis with his head in bandages.
*The Keeper/Star One
Almost anything from The Keeper - preferably involving Gola rolling
his eyes - or the Andromedan battle fleet.
*Aftermath/Powerplay
Vila and Cally in surgical gowns with feet in foreground.
*Volcano/Dawn of the Gods
The Thaarn. Hey, Fab Films got that one!
*Harvest of Kairos/City at the Edge of the World
Brian the Spider, of course!
*Children of Auron/Rumours of Death
First shot of Zelda (looking very sincere), or Auron pilot dying
horribly.
*Sarcophagus/Ultraworld
The Ultra Core.
*Moloch/Deathwatch
Moloch.
*Terminal/Rescue
Links jumping on those blond people, or Servalan's Maximum Power
pose.
*Power/Traitor
Gunn-Sar forgetting his words while challenging Avon.
*Stardrive/Animals
Space Rats lolling on cushions.
*Headhunter/Assassin
The headless android marching through the woods shouting "Where is
Orac?"
*Games/Sand
Wasn't one of Servalan's men eaten by the sand in a rather silly
manner?
*Gold/Orbit
Egrorian and Pindar giggling.
*Warlord/Blake
Zeeona's hair.
Better suggestions gratefully received...
Harriet
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:26:28 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Australian prices
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The Australian dollar rate has improved again. While this still doesn't make
zines mailed from England to Australia exactly cheap, it adds to the slight drop
in postage rates from England to Australia to make the zines cost less than they
have for the last couple of years.
Judith
PS. Both baby budgies are now flying. Avon and Blake are both unutterably cute
and Avon (older by all of about five days) seems to be helping to feed Blake as
their mother has started getting rather aggressive.
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