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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 91
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
[B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines
[B7L] filk
[B7L] Avon club news
Re: [B7L] filk
Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 on DVD?
Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton
Re: [B7L]: Time Line
Re: [B7L] filk
Re: [B7L] who sez?
Re: [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines
Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90
Re: [B7L]: Time Line
Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:31:30 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
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> Embarrass him? Innocent me? (quietly hiding the pages with Avon, the
> moose and the bright pink leotard...) ;-)
On second thought, go ahead and embarrass him. The mind boggles--bright
pink leotard?
> But don't worry. Tarrant comes of much wose <GDAR from the Tarrant Nostra>
>
> But on a more serious note, what do you do with these pieces of fanfic?
> Should I post it here as I write it/ in one big lump at the end/ email it
> to someone with a fanfic site/ etc. ?
No posting in pieces-- I would enjoy seeing it on this list, but a large
email could slow loading a lot... would other people be willing to deal
with that (I would) as opposed to learning yet another site to check for
fiction? Whichever way, I know there was a mail on this list a while ago
asking for novice fanfic, so you can be sure of a place where it will be
welcome (well, I'm not sure what the host of the site will think of the
moose) ;)
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:09:29 -0500 (EST)
From: adering@ziplink.net (Alex Dering)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines
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Shame on all of you for missing the obvious on this:
When Blake, Jenna, and Avon arrive at Cygnus Alpha, slightly behind the
London, they are all wearing the same clothes (even though it is several
months later) by coincidence. Blake and the others have probably been
spending as much time as possible learning all about the ship. They know
there's a nice room filled with clothes, and they've probably selected all
the ones they want. However, now that they're approaching the point where
they have to go and get the others, they, perhaps subconsciously, have put
their old "convict" clothes on (I'm sure the Liberator has a washer and
dryer).
As to why they arrive after the London, well, to arrive before the London
would be absolutely idiotic. If the London sees them, the London might call
for Federation support, or at least tell them where to find the Liberator.
Much more sensible to wait for the London to leave, after it drops off its
prisoners.
And as to Dr. Plaxton. Hmm... someone is fatally injured when the ship's
engines are re-engaged. Can you say, "The ship... out of danger?"
Aside from the Plaxton/Spock similarity, can anyone think of other
scenarios which Blake's 7 had first, which other series then had? I recall
that one of the nearly-final scenes in Brazil had the main character
surrounded in the bedroom by a gang of guards, very similar, visually, to
Avon's final scene.
That's all for now...
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lies the future of mankind."
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:15:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] filk
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(composed over dinner...)
Soup of Cally, Leg of Tarrant, Avon's little toasties,
Even though the smell of them is something quite atrocious,
They may think that they can cook, but you'll get hallitosis,
Supercallifragilisticexpialadocious!
Judith
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:36:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Avon club news
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LATEST NEWS FROM 'AVON' (the Paul Darrow fan club) 20TH MARCH, 1998
HERE IS AN UPDATE OF THEATRE DATES FOR PAUL'S TOUR OF 'GUARDS! GUARDS!
18TH MARCH BLACKPOOL - THE GRAND (OPENING WEDNESDAY)
23RD MARCH HACKNEY EMPIRE (NOT ON THE THURSDAY)
31TH MARCH NEWCASTLE - THEATRE ROYAL (OPENING TUESDAY)
6TH APRIL NORWICH - THEATRE ROYAL (INCLUDING GOOD FRIDAY)
13TH APRIL HULL - NEW THEATRE (NOT EASTER MONDAY)
20TH APRIL STEVENAGE - GORDON CRAIG THEATRE
27TH APRIL EASTBOURNE - DEVONSHIRE PARK THEATRE
4TH MAY TO BE CONFIRMED
11TH MAY TO BE CONFIRMED
18TH MAY HANLEY - THEATRE ROYAL
25TH MAY ABERDEEN - HIS MAJESTY'S
1ST JUNE EDINBURGH - KING'S
8TH JUNE READING - HEXAGON
DARLINGTON HAS BEEN CANCELLED
PAUL WILL BE INTERVIEWED BY NED SHERRIN ON HIS RADIO PROGRAMME 'LOOSE ENDS' -
SATURDAY 28TH MARCH - RADIO 4 - 7.00 AM!!
HE WILL ALSO BE INTERVIEWED ON THE STEVE ALLEN SHOW ON LBC RADIO ON MONDAY
23RD MARCH - 5.00 PM
ANOTHER INTERVIEW WITH PAUL IS ON 'TELETEX' - SEE UNDER THEATRE SECTION -
CHANNEL 4.
ANN BOWN
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:43:01 +1000 (EST)
From: Gordon & Carol <gcb7@magna.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] filk
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At 08:15 PM 3/25/98 +0000, you wrote:
>(composed over dinner...)
>
>
> Soup of Cally, Leg of Tarrant, Avon's little toasties,
> Even though the smell of them is something quite atrocious,
> They may think that they can cook, but you'll get hallitosis,
> Supercallifragilisticexpialadocious!
>
>Judith
ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!
What was in your mind at the time my dear, that you came up with this little
ditty. :-)
Carol.
Semper Fidelis
Carol "Hondo" Mason < gcb7@magna.com.au >
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:52:11 +0000
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 on DVD?
Message-ID: <KlqCIGAbqYG1Ewez@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <199803252027.VAA24338@samantha.lysator.liu.se>, Julie Horner
<jihorner@dial.pipex.com> writes
<snip>
>
>Unfortunately I missed it on the BBC first time round so I am not aware
>of any special bits I should be looking out for. Can someone enlighten me?
>
There is a bit in the fight scene between Avon and the computer
technician, where Avon slams his hands over the guy's ears. It was
trimmed from the video, IIRC because at the time there had been a spate
of kiddies imitating this from the Tango ad (and various others) and
causing perforated eardrums or worse.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:47:43 +0100 (MET)
From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" <jeroenkw@gns.getronics.nl>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (mailing list)
Subject: Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton
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>
> In 'Stardrive' (series 4) she is the scientist who has created a new
> super-dooper thingummy which makes spacecraft go like s**t off a shovel.
>
> She is using this marvellous technology to help a bunch of space
> punks called Space Rats (I think) make their craft faster than anything.
>
> Avon and the crew get her to fit this gadget to Scorpio. Unfortunately she
> is a bit tardy in performing the installation and does not have time to get
>
> out of the way before Avon has to use said thingummy to escape the
> Federation ships - thus killing Dr. Plaxton.
>
> Hard decision but someone had to make it.
>
> Hope I covered all the relevant points there.
>
> Julie Horner
>
Which is fortunate really because:
1. They would be stuck with dr. plaxton
2. They would go to fast for the federation
3. Lost Slave the first time he would speak to dr. plaxton :)
4. They might actually keep some techno-stuff for real instead of losing it
in the same episode :)
5. ...
Jeroen
PS: Sorry :)
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:00 -0000
From: "Taylor, Steve [MIS]" <S.Taylor@lmu.ac.uk>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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Someone - attribution lost:-(
->>Also, supposedly they were about halfway to CA when they got the
Liberator,
->>which means they still had another 4 months to go (ref the comment
in TWB
->>where someone says it takes 8 months to get there. Yet when they
arrived,
->>they were all wearing the same clothes as they were when they set
course
->for
->>CA.........
->
->Yeah that always makes me laugh. They must have been pretty smelly
by
->then!!
->
They could have used the Liber-launder facility!
SteveT
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:08:49 -0500 (EST)
From: sjk3@cornell.edu
To: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
cc: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] filk
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On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Judith Proctor wrote:
> (composed over dinner...)
> Soup of Cally, Leg of Tarrant, Avon's little toasties,
> Even though the smell of them is something quite atrocious,
> They may think that they can cook, but you'll get hallitosis,
> Supercallifragilisticexpialadocious!
When I read the first couple lines of this I was wondering what in
the world put the idea into your head of making soup out of Cally.
Perhaps too many readings of "Stranger in a Strange Land"? Then I read
the third line...
Sandra Kisner
sjk3@cornell.edu
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Date: 26 Mar 1998 14:13:55 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: "G. Robbins" <robbins@graceland.edu>
Cc: Jay <jmcguiga@succeed.net>, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] who sez?
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"G. Robbins" <robbins@graceland.edu> writes:
> > Pat gave us these wonderful words of wisdom:
> > 10. Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer.
>
> Number ten sounds like something very familiar....from The X-Files,
> perhaps?
I remember it from Babylon 5. G'kar says it to Na'toth in first season
episode "Parliament of Dreams".
--
Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:00:34 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Alex Dering <adering@ziplink.net>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines
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Alex Dering wrote:
>
> Shame on all of you for missing the obvious on this:
>
> When Blake, Jenna, and Avon arrive at Cygnus Alpha, slightly behind the
> London, they are all wearing the same clothes (even though it is several
> months later) by coincidence. Blake and the others have probably been
> spending as much time as possible learning all about the ship. They know
> there's a nice room filled with clothes, and they've probably selected all
> the ones they want. However, now that they're approaching the point where
> they have to go and get the others, they, perhaps subconsciously, have put
> their old "convict" clothes on (I'm sure the Liberator has a washer and
> dryer).
Maybe not subconsciously. They'll be meeting their fellow-prisoners.
And everyone on Cygnus Alpha will wear convict clothes. So, to be
inconspicuous when he goes to take a look around, Blake puts his convict
outfit back on. Avon decides to wear his, so as not to advertise how
much material goods came with the ship. Jenna wears hers to "fit in",
since she'll still be the only female around and she doesn't want to
"pretty up" for men who haven't seen a girl in 4 months (at least).
The answer, at last!
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:44:35 EST
From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90
Message-ID: <19980326.083845.2223.0.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>
In message <19980324.184342.15151.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>,
penny_kjelgaard@juno.com writes
>PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
>>
>Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
>reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es
>
>
>Come and get me.
>
So when's your next con? Just to make things easy for us, you
understand.
--
Julia Jones
Julia, I have never been to a con, although Seattle does have such
culture from time to time. I'm afraid you'll have to settle for list
reconditioning.
It's not that I dislike Avon, like I said before, I just don't worship
him. I am an ENTP/J, so, how could I? I could argue with him, see his
good points and encourage him, perhaps even trust him, but, like him?
I had an aquaintance once who was much like Avon, (a whole lot LESS
ruthless, mind you) and I could see his strong points, even respect him,
but still not really like him.
Now, on the other hand, I am a tremendous Blake fan. He is so much like
me that I really identify with him, albeit he has a very strong desire
for revenge (something I reserve for skinny kids in high school who show
up FAT at our reunions. Wicked pleasure!)
Peace,
Penny
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:13:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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On Wed 25 Mar, Ian Lay wrote:
> The reason why Liberator took just about the same time to reach Cygnus Alpha
> as the London is I think they were travelling at similar speeds. Blake
> tells Zen to get to Cygnus Alpha at Standard Speed when Zen asks for a
> speed. Now as Standard speed is equivalent to time distort 4, it could be
> possible that the London is also going Time distort 4.
>
> Now they could have gone faster, but they did want to "follow" the London,
> and lets be honest they didn't arrive long after the London arrived.
The basic problem with the 2nd and 3rd episode is that they cannot be cleanly
reconciled.
When watching 'Cygnus Alpha', it is evident that Liberator reached the planet
only a few hours at most after leaving the London. They are still exploring the
ship. Jenna discovers the clothes room and the treasury while Blake is down on
the planet.
Also, it is in this episode that Leylan orders suppressent gas to be used on
London and he sends his report of what happened in the prisoners' revolt. In
other wordss, London arrives at CA a day after the revolt at the most.
In short, the 4 month/8 month time references have to be ignored as one of them
is totally wrong. My only way of managing it is to assume that 8 months
referred to te round trip to CA and back to Earth, although this does not sit
well with the context in which it is used.
Judith
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:54:45 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90
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> It's not that I dislike Avon, like I said before, I just don't worship
> him. I am an ENTP/J, so, how could I? I could argue with him, see his
> good points and encourage him, perhaps even trust him, but, like him?
>
> I had an aquaintance once who was much like Avon, (a whole lot LESS
> ruthless, mind you) and I could see his strong points, even respect him,
> but still not really like him.
>
> Now, on the other hand, I am a tremendous Blake fan. He is so much like
> me that I really identify with him, albeit he has a very strong desire
> for revenge (something I reserve for skinny kids in high school who show
> up FAT at our reunions. Wicked pleasure!)
Blake _likes_ Avon. He is often annoyed by him, often tired of having to
argue with him constantly, and having his authority undermined-- (seems
familiar; oh yeah, my frequent conflicts with authority figures unless I
learn to trust them)-- but he likes him. Because he respects him.
Actually, I can't imgaine seeing someone the way you say you see Avon
(respect, recognizing strong points, trusting) and not liking them as
part of the package.
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