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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 289
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
[B7L] Used zines for sale
[B7L] Guards Guards
[B7L] Acon club newsletter
Re: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
Re: Fw: [B7L]Hostage
Re: [B7L] Re: Horizon Newflash
Re: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
[B7L] A question of Rank
[B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: Fw: [B7L]Hostage
Re: [B7L] Re: Defending Blake, etc.
Re: [B7L] A question of Rank
[B7L] Re:Hostage
Re: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
Re: [B7L] A question of Rank
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
[B7L] vila's locks
Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:59:08 -0000
From: "Jenni -Alison" <Jenni-Alison@dial.pipex.com>
To: <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
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Gail G wrote
>
> I've seen a lot of references to "the Godmother." Who is she? How did
she
> get this title?
>
> Gail G.
>
> p.s. Yes, Avon is always worthy of praise.
Oh mighty Godmother of the Tarrant Nostra
One in need of your tender instruction cries out, that she may be made
worthy of worship of His Curliness.
Appear before the multitude in your ceremonial vestments, that they may see
and be converted.
New souls for the faith!
Jenni
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Date: 18 Nov 1998 10:17:46 -0800
From: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Used zines for sale
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If anyone is interested in these please reply by private email.
Thanks
These are all Blake's 7 novels and zines. If you're in the US, the price
includes postage. It may be a little more for overseas postage. Thanks again.
Novels
A Companion for my Death (A/Se) (A/C) $8.00
Strategies (an Avon love story) $5.00
Careless Whispers $8.00
The Last Best Hope $8.00
The Long Way Back $8.00
The Mind of a Man (pt.1 of Double-Edged Sword Trilogy) $5.00
Last Stand at the Edge of the World $8.00 (A-B-V)
Shadow at the Edge (sequel to Last Stand at the Edge of the World) $8.00
Desperado (PGP) $8.00 (Avon-Blake)
Zines
The Road to Hell (stories by Susan Lovett) $8.00
Southern Comfort 7.5 $8.00
3 short stories by Leigh Arnold (PGP)
Survivor (pt 1) 53 pages
Revelations (pt 2) 32 pages
Figurehead (pt 3) 38 pages
All three $6.00
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:14:12 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Guards Guards
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I've just got the tour dates for Gaurds Guards from the Avon Club. Please note
that there's at least one mistake in the dates they've sent out. I haven't
checked all the venues, but I did double-check Swansea and Darlington as one of
the club's dates conflicted with information I already had from Darlington
theatre. The dates below are definately correct for Swansea and Darlington, but
I haven't confirmed the rest myself.
21st Jan to 30th Jan - Colchester, Mercury Theatre
1st Feb to 6th Feb - Brighton, Theatre Royal
8th Feb to 13th Feb - Coventry, Belgrade Theatre
15th Feb to 20th Feb - Wimbledon Theatre (London)
22nd Feb to 27 Feb - The Civic Theatre, Darlington
2nd March to 6th March - The Grand, Swansea. box office tel 01792 475715
Redemption falls neatly into the weekend between Darlington and Swansea.
Overseas fans looking for an excuse to come over to England have now got two
good reasons to cross the Atlantic/English Channel/any other large and
inconvenient body of water.
Judith
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:40:05 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Acon club newsletter
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I'm not normally a massive Paul Darrow fan (I like him, but wouldn't go half way
up the country to see him) but there is a photo in the current issue of the Avon
club newsletter that is absolutely gorgeous. Paul, asleep in an armchair
holding onto Tilly, his (and Janet's) young daschund. It's a colour photo, and
frankly, it's almost worth the price of joining the club all on its own!
If you're wondering what a Gareth fan is doing in the Avon club, the answer is
simple. I like Paul as well as Gareth, and it's a nice little club and the
newsletter may be small, but it's always enjoyable to read.
Judith
PS. their website is http://members.aol.com/avonpds
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:45:20 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
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Jenni wrote:
> Appear before the multitude in your ceremonial vestments, that they may see
> and be converted.
Oh dear. Will rather standard trousers and shirt do? My evil Tarrant Nostra
leader outfit is at the laundry. Bloodstains...again. ;-)
Gail, Brooke dubbed the militant fans of Tarrant the Tarrant Nostra.
Somewhere along the way someone (can't recall who) assigned me to the
responsible position of "godmother." Since then, I've been making fans offers
they can't refuse... ;-)
We're always looking for a few more good fen. One only has to appreciate the
decorative and resourceful one to be welcomed into the ranks of the faithful
tasteful.
Carol Mc
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:16:46 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: egomoo@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Fw: [B7L]Hostage
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>>In Hostage, when Travis has got Blake, Avon and Vila trapped
>>in an airtight room, he asks Ushton which one is the weaker.
>>
>>Apart from Blake, Ushton hardly knows the other two - he has had
>>limited contact with Vila and virtually none with Avon. Travis on
>>the other hand has been tracking them for ages and is surely
>>obsessed with the crew and must know quite a bit about them
>>by now. So why on earth (sorry Exbar) does he ask this question?
>>
>>Does this seem like a flaky bit of bit of dialogue to anyone else?
>>
He knows the answer. He's just empirically demonstrating to Inga how
willing her father is to betray Blake. Justifying his world-view.
I know I'm an anomaly, but this is one of my favourite episodes.
A spelunking expedition into the bat-guano-filled recesses of
Travis' psyche, and everyone gets a kick at Vila. And tragically
it's the last we see of Trav's awesome pompadour.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:41:39 -0000
From: "Julie Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Horizon Newflash
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From: Harriet Monkhouse
>By the way, I've lost the note saying when the next video
>(Hostage/Countdown, by my reckoning) was due out. Could you remind me?
>
It's out! It came out on 9th November and HMV had it in stock
from the release date.
I don't think the next two are due until January
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Date: 18 Nov 1998 22:24:02 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
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Mac4781@aol.com writes:
> the decorative and resourceful one
Servalan?
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
"I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:52:16 PST
From: "Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] A question of Rank
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Hello to all-
I have a question concerning rank and 'Captain' Tarrant. Looked up
captain in the dictionary and got this: (paraphrasing)
1. an officer ranking above a commander and below a rear admiral
(US Navy)
2. an officer ranking above a first lieutenant and below a major
( most western armies)
3. the pilot of an airplane.
Now, I can understand the pilot bit- but in (USA) our airforce, a pilot
is simply a 2nd or 1st lieutenant, *not* a captain. It would seem that
captain infers some sort of command capability. When I was in the ROTC,
I was being trained to be a 2nd; I would made Captain upon completion of
7 years or completion of my masters degree. So, for the fans, hat
exactly is the meaning of Tarrant rank?
Edith
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:29:30 -0000
From: chris.sunman@virgin.net (chris.sunman@virgin.net)
To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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Echoing the sentiments expressed by Judith and Tisha, I would strongly
recommend folk to watch B5. Unfortunately on its first screening I allowed
the tacky first episode to put me off watching it, so when I finally
realised what a good show it was, I was stuck with buying the videos to
ensure I was watching it in the right order (vital). This was expensive,
and had the disadvantage of leaving me miles behind the TV plot. So I
couldn't read the mags, visit the web sites etc without spoiling the plot.
It would be interesting to compare and contrast the situation and leadership
styles of Sheridan and Blake. Others on this mailing list are immensely more
suited to such a task than I, but to start the ball rolling.....
<Spoiler space>
Both become disenfranchised from earth/its government and become outcasts.
Both have propaganda/dis-information used against them.
Sheridan has a military background and rank based authority within the
station. This helps give him a strategic view of situations, but his
building of an alliance and his continuing control of the station after its
independence has to be achieved by force of personality. (His ability to
come back from the dead also helps a bit). He has Blake's clear view of
right and wrong, moral outrage, self sacrifice etc and yet that same
ruthless streak when he has to (using nuclear mines against the Mimbari and
shadows, crashing the whitestar into a city, ambushing the Vorlon
ambassador, sending a crew on a suicide mission etc). Most of the time he
works in a consultative/ collaborative style, bringing the key elements of
the crew into his trust and then setting up the war council. But this is no
Star Trek "we're the good guys team", there are personal agendas, hidden
motives, and (gasp) evolving characters. Blake meanwhile seems always to be
adopting some personal plan which he tends to keep hidden from his crew. And
yet the crew of the liberator, includes some very talented individuals.
Where ever they get to, someone always seems to have heard of the place or
got a friend/enemy there. However they are limited to reacting to what Blake
does rather than helping forge the plan, or at a higher level decide what
the next step should be. Even when the strategy of destroying the computer
centre is hit on, we don't get a "How can we best achieve this" approach but
a rather fragmented search for clues. In fact at times the crew acts very
disfunctionaly, they ignore the capability of vital assets (orac, the
teleport and quite often the liberator itself) and get themselves into
trouble. The rest of the episode is the story of how they get out of trouble
(sometimes with another plot device) but they never seem to think about the
lessons to be learnt. Because of the stronger story arch, Sheridan is
allowed to learn, discover the shadows weakness etc and feed this back into
evolving a better strategy.
By the way, I suspect Gareth (and Paul Darrow) could have played a more
convincing and substantial Sheridan than Bruce......and perhaps Bruce could
have better suited Blake's naivety.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:04:26 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Fw: [B7L]Hostage
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>>Also if Cally's telepathy allows her to send and receive thoughts but
not
>>read non-telepath's minds, how does she detect Avon's unease?
I suppose it's moot, this being Drama not Reality, to say, "Heck,
_I_ detected his unease, and _I_ don't _know_ the man, as Cally does."
Still - maybe it's not mind-reading, just being more observant than
the rest were, on that occasion at least.
>>I forget who
>>wrote this one - was it someone who didn't normally write B7?
Alan Prior. Also wrote "The Keeper", another episode I am apparently
in the perverse minority in enjoying greatly. Did he write anything
other than those two episodes? I don't know.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:57:42 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Susan Thomas wrote:
> Re: the armies of evil being legion, there's something in one of the
> Gospels (Matthew or Mark, I think) about Jesus casting out a demon or demons
> who is/are possessing a man. He asks the possessing demon what its name is,
> and it says "My name is legion," meaning, presumably, there are a lot of me.
The way language develops, consider this possibility:
The demon says, "My name is Legion and I am many.
But what if??? "My name is Hotcakes and I am many."
Henceforth, the word for "many evil demons" becomes "hotcakes" and over
the long ages, as people stop believing in deomons, the meaning of the
word gets truncated to just "many." So that today we casually say, "wow!
whole legions of ants were crawling around my kitchen sink today!"
> Re: the evil of the Federation, Shades of the First Emperor
> building the Great Wall and making the empire safe from invasion, but at a
> terrible personal cost to his subjects.
A great analogy.
So is it better to slave in safety, or die free fighting off the Alien
slime?
Is it better to be a barn-housed mule chained to a plow, toiling the
long day in the fields?
Is it better to be the wild pony, foraging for grass, and ever stalked
by hungry wolves?
Pat P
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:47:05 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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I think Captain in the Federation forces was probably analogous to Captain in
the army: a mid-level command rank. Commander probably outranks Colonel;
Travis did not seem to have to answer to anyone other than the Supreme
Commander. Here's one possible ranking system:
Non-com: Trooper
Section Leader
Comissioned: Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Colonel
Commander
Admiral
Supreme Commander
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:08:22 +1100
From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Penny you are not alone in your liking for 'Hostage'.
I too am very fond of it for lots of reasons most of which have to do with
the insights it provides into how Avon feels about Blake -smile-
Avon's unease after he realises he has put Blake in danger is rather
noticeable. For someone like Cally who does seem to take notice of the
general crew ambience probably unmistakeable, particularly as its Avon! no
doubt she found it as fascinating as I do -smile- The moment when he
announces that he is going down is a memorable one -smile-
And as one who feels the Blake-Avon relationship is central the other
entirely memorable moment is when Avon, injured, tells Blake to leave him,
to 'watch yourself.' Definitely one of my favourite moments!
But I also like that it provides a few tidbits of 'history' for Blake and
also tends to argue against the oft suggested Blake cares only generally
and not for anyone in particular.
Yes the crimos are laughable; yes the rocks are obviously styrofoam; yes
the quick check of the power levels on their guns must have suggested they
were below operational tolerance -smile- but, Avon puts Blake's welfare
before his own - sigh! the stuff which launched countless fanfic -smile-
Pat Fenech
> >>Also if Cally's telepathy allows her to send and receive thoughts but
> not
> >>read non-telepath's minds, how does she detect Avon's unease?
>
> I suppose it's moot, this being Drama not Reality, to say, "Heck,
> _I_ detected his unease, and _I_ don't _know_ the man, as Cally does."
> Still - maybe it's not mind-reading, just being more observant than
> the rest were, on that occasion at least.
>
> >>I forget who
> >>wrote this one - was it someone who didn't normally write B7?
>
> Alan Prior. Also wrote "The Keeper", another episode I am apparently
> in the perverse minority in enjoying greatly. Did he write anything
> other than those two episodes? I don't know.
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:06:17 EST
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Appear, O Godmother.
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Carol Mc wrote:
<< Gail, Brooke dubbed the militant fans of Tarrant the Tarrant Nostra.
Somewhere along the way someone (can't recall who) assigned me to the
responsible position of "godmother." Since then, I've been making fans
offers
they can't refuse... ;-) >>
Thanks for making things clear to me! :) You are the Godmother of the
Tarrant Nostra. How did I miss that? I think I must have been sleeping over
my computer. So it all has to do with those curls. I have to admit, I have
never properly admired them. I've been too blinded by Avon's charm. But, I
shall try to be more properly appreciative in the future!
Gail G.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:48:47 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Edith wrote:
> Now, I can understand the pilot bit- but in (USA) our airforce, a pilot
> is simply a 2nd or 1st lieutenant, *not* a captain. It would seem that
> captain infers some sort of command capability. When I was in the ROTC,
> I was being trained to be a 2nd; I would made Captain upon completion of
> 7 years or completion of my masters degree. So, for the fans, hat
> exactly is the meaning of Tarrant rank?
I tend to place his rank as just above 1st Lieutenant, while also assuming
that a captain's rank in Space Command tends to mean someone in command of a
ship. He might not be the primary pilot at that point; depending on the size
of the ship and his other duties. If he's commanding a largish battle
cruiser type ship, then I think the piloting duties are probably left to lower
ranks.
Tiger M contributed:
> Non-com: Trooper
> Section Leader
>
> Comissioned: Lieutenant
> Captain
> Major
> Colonel
> Commander
> Admiral
> Supreme Commander
Yep, that's exactly how I've always interpreted the different ranks we heard
mentioned in B7. It seemed to be a mix of service ranks, at least when you
consider the rankings used by different branches of the US military (I'm not
familiar with British military ranks). While we never heard mention that it
was the case, I also tend to assume that there are two lieutenant ranks in
Space service, as we find in the US military: 2nd lieutenant, 1st lieutenant;
lieutenant j.g., lieutenant. All of those lieutenants are called "lieutenant"
when addressed, which is why we might not have specific mention of different
lieutenant rankings in Space Command.
There's more canonical and speculative information on Tarrant's background at
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4667/tarrant.htm
Carol Mc
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:52:07 -0600
From: "Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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From: chris.sunman@virgin.net <chris.sunman@virgin.net>
To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:31 PM
Subject: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
>Echoing the sentiments expressed by Judith and Tisha, I would strongly
>recommend folk to watch B5. Unfortunately on its first screening I allowed
>the tacky first episode to put me off watching it, so when I finally
>realised what a good show it was, I was stuck with buying the videos to
>ensure I was watching it in the right order (vital). This was expensive,
>and had the disadvantage of leaving me miles behind the TV plot. So I
>couldn't read the mags, visit the web sites etc without spoiling the plot.
>
>It would be interesting to compare and contrast the situation and
leadership
>styles of Sheridan and Blake. Others on this mailing list are immensely
more
>suited to such a task than I, but to start the ball rolling.....
>
>
>
>
><Spoiler space>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Both become disenfranchised from earth/its government and become outcasts.
>Both have propaganda/dis-information used against them.
>
>Sheridan has a military background and rank based authority within the
>station. This helps give him a strategic view of situations, but his
>building of an alliance and his continuing control of the station after its
>independence has to be achieved by force of personality. (His ability to
>come back from the dead also helps a bit). He has Blake's clear view of
>right and wrong, moral outrage, self sacrifice etc and yet that same
>ruthless streak when he has to (using nuclear mines against the Mimbari and
>shadows, crashing the whitestar into a city, ambushing the Vorlon
>ambassador, sending a crew on a suicide mission etc). Most of the time he
>works in a consultative/ collaborative style, bringing the key elements of
>the crew into his trust and then setting up the war council. But this is
no
>Star Trek "we're the good guys team", there are personal agendas, hidden
>motives, and (gasp) evolving characters. Blake meanwhile seems always to be
>adopting some personal plan which he tends to keep hidden from his crew.
And
>yet the crew of the liberator, includes some very talented individuals.
>Where ever they get to, someone always seems to have heard of the place or
>got a friend/enemy there. However they are limited to reacting to what
Blake
>does rather than helping forge the plan, or at a higher level decide what
>the next step should be. Even when the strategy of destroying the computer
>centre is hit on, we don't get a "How can we best achieve this" approach
but
>a rather fragmented search for clues. In fact at times the crew acts very
>disfunctionaly, they ignore the capability of vital assets (orac, the
>teleport and quite often the liberator itself) and get themselves into
>trouble. The rest of the episode is the story of how they get out of
trouble
>(sometimes with another plot device) but they never seem to think about the
>lessons to be learnt. Because of the stronger story arch, Sheridan is
>allowed to learn, discover the shadows weakness etc and feed this back into
>evolving a better strategy.
>
>By the way, I suspect Gareth (and Paul Darrow) could have played a more
>convincing and substantial Sheridan than Bruce......and perhaps Bruce could
>have better suited Blake's naivety.
>
While we're on the topic, I really like the parallels in the shows. JMS
cites Blake's 7 as a primary inspiration for the show. He once said
something to the effect that the brits had done arc shows, Blake's 7, The
Prisoner and to an extent, Dr. Who. He cites the unforgettable ending to
the series and how it managed to keep going without Blake.
Parallels:
Blake leaves unexpectledly at the end of season 2.
Sinclair leaves unexpectly at the end oof season 1.
The is a "hole" in Sincalir's mind.
There is a "hole" in Blake's memory
Sincalir comes back later as a sort of religious figure, when he returns it
is among the most pivitol point in the whole series.
Blake becomes a sort of figurehead for the movement, gaining almost a mesiah
like reputation for the masses, when he returns it is a pivitol point for
the series. It will be interesting to see if Sincalir comes back for
Standing in the Light.
Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series.
Reuben
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Date: 19 Nov 1998 16:39:42 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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"Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net> writes:
> Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series.
No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final
five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you.
--
Calle Dybedahl, qdtcall@esavionics.se, http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
Mediocre minds think alike.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:04:39 -0600
From: "Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
>"Reuben" <reuben@reuben.net> writes:
>
>> Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series.
>
>No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final
>five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you.
>--
If I post any spoilers I will mark them really really well.
Actually I'll just post one speculation. The final episode is all about the
crew teaming up with the Season Two Blake's 7 cast and hunting down the
entire crew of the Voyger.
Well, that's what I'd like to see.
Reuben "Who thinks it's never a good idea to watch B5 and Voyager during the
same night"
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:32:59 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@mail.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Reuben wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
> >
> >No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final
> >five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you.
> >--
>
> If I post any spoilers I will mark them really really well.
Better that you do not post any spoilers at all.
(Dr Who fans: try to read the above line as if delivered by Morgus from
"Caves Of Androzani".)
>
> Actually I'll just post one speculation. The final episode is all about the
> crew teaming up with the Season Two Blake's 7 cast and hunting down the
> entire crew of the Voyger.
>
> Well, that's what I'd like to see.
>
> Reuben "Who thinks it's never a good idea to watch B5 and Voyager during the
> same night"
I've never found it to be a good idea to watch Voyager at all.
Iain
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:46:35 GMT
From: Roger the Shrubber <powerplay@cheerful.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] vila's locks
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Allison wrote
In fact, I can't
think of a lock that stopped him(I'm probably wrong).
***
Dorian's security door on Xenon seemed to stump Vila, but then Dorian got
killed, so either Soolin or Vila must have opened it later (or Avon got
around the programming ...)
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:08:42 EST
From: ShilLance@aol.com
To: reuben@reuben.net, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan
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In a message dated 11/19/98 11:17:09 AM EST, reuben@reuben.net writes:
<< Actually I'll just post one speculation. The final episode is all about
the
crew teaming up with the Season Two Blake's 7 cast and hunting down the
entire crew of the Voyger. >>
LOL!!!! :-) Though it would probaly end with Janeway, 7 of 9 and Voyager
wiping the floor with Sheridan, Garibaldi, Blake and Avon. There's just no
real competition for those two ladies!!!!!!!
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